Sunday, December 14, 2014

Curious Patrick

There's quite a discussion at Levin's flog about the recent action by the Escambia County (Florida) County Commission to remove the Five Flags displays on county property and fly only the American (sic) flag and maybe the Florida flag. 

A lot of the discussion is about ... MOI!

Imagine that.

I may get around to blogging about that thread (and about the county's action), but I've got too many irons in too many other fires to give it much time right now.

Until then, here's  a comment posted by Mr. Young at Levin's flog:
 Pat Young Dec 14, 2014

Yesterday I submitted a comment on her blog asking her to explain her inaction. Although she has posted a couple of things there subsequently, she has posted neither an explanation nor even my question.

Perhaps this reminder will spur her to action.
And here's my reply:
Mr. Young, first, what bizarre thought processes cause you to imagine I owe you, or any other flogger or floggerette, any explanation ... about anything?

Second, I have received no comment from you. It is not in the Awaiting Moderation queue. It's not in Spam.

Blogger notifies me by e-mail when comments are received, so just to be sure, I double checked the in-box and spam filter of my e-mail account. Nothing there, either.

If you like, you can try to submit it again, but of course, there is no guarantee I will allow it through, or answer it. However, if I receive it, I will acknowledge that, regardless of whether I respond or not.


  1. Must be fun living rent free in such small minds.

  2. Ms. Chastain,
    my comment was essentially what you posted from me above but chose not to respond to. Why didn't you write about the proposal to remove the Confederate Battle Flag from public property in Pensacola.

    1. Why would you want the CBF removed????

      George Purvis

  3. Because, when I first found out about it, I assumed the county commission would follow in the steps of the City of Pensacola and replace the battle flag with the First National.

    While there are some "historic accuracy" problems with the First National, I don't object to its use in the Five Flags displays. When the city replaced the battle flag with the First National in 2000, my primary objection was with the manner in which it was done. Same now.

    I found out about the county commission's plans to change the flag display on November 22, in a Pensacola News Journal editorial by J. Earl Bowden. Apparently, he, too, assumed there would be a vote to replace the battle flag, and he recommended the First National.

    When I said that the vote was a done deal, I meant that the vote to change the display was a done deal -- IOW, that there would be no option to leave it as it was.

    But I had no idea they would vote to remove ALL the historic flags from the display, and apparently Mr. Bowden didn't either. From the sound of his editorial, it never occurred to him that they would vote to remove all the historic flags.

    In the next few weeks, when I start flagging to restore the flags, it will be to restore ALL the historic flags to the display -- the Confederacy, Spain, Britain and France. And although I have reasons to consider the Third National as the most historically accurate, I wouldn't have a problem with using a First National in the display.

    Please let me know the times you are available and supply me with a working email addy, so I can submit to you in advance a list of subjects I plan to NOT blog about ....I mean, you know, just as soon as you tell me why it's any of your business.

    1. Thank you for responding to my question.

    2. Mr Young why do you care about what happens in the South? Do you live here?

  4. "I struggle with what I was going to say here today, I understand people have a problem with the concept of slavery, but every flag that flies in the Five Flags represents a country that has something to do with slavery,"

    -SCV member Tommy Ratchford at Escambia County Commissioners Meeting

    Right, except the Confederates had no slave ships.

    Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade - # of Slaves

    United States........305,326

  5. Excellent point, BR. I'm sure it wasn't made at the meeting.

    1. Another thing to point out is the fact that the bulk of slaves that came to the Americas went to the Caribbean and Latin America. Yet, it's the U.S., both North and South, that catches all the grief for it. It started sooner, and lasted longer south of the Rio Grande and Gulf Coast, than it did here. Where are all the recriminations against the Cubans, Brazilians, Columbians, Mexicans, et al? I'd say we all know why, don't we?

    2. Not only that, slaves in the Caribbean were worked to death.

  6. Btw, Mr. Young, a lot of those US slave ships came out of New York City.

    In fact, over 80% were from the northeast.

    Maybe you can write an article about it on your blog....but not holding my breath.

    1. About two or three years ago, some reporters from Hartford, Connecticut wrote a book about slavery in New England and New York. Although they were careful to point out that this was in no way a recrimination of the North, or that any guilt or culpability should be appended to North as a result of their work. No surprise, there. Since we all know that Yankees can do no wrong, ever. Their prison inmates are better than all the honest folks in Dixie. How do we know?., 'cause they said so.

    2. Yes. Complicity -- How the North Promoted, Prolonged and Profited From Slavery .I'm sure our flogger critics are unimpressed with the book, though, since reporters aren't real historians...

  7. ----and let's not forget about the treatment of the Indians by the US.And the Japanese - Americans.

    .Looks like Young ain't gonna respond. No facts??


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